Roddy song dropped from Deluxe More Specials C.D.

[Trojan]

[Sugarman]

[inlikeflynn]

[Harry]

Sorry Inlikeflynn, I read your post and thought you were agreeing with the opinion that someone had dropped "Bragging" track as a sight to Roddy and that the fact his guitar contribution to "Racist Friend"wasn't mentioned was another slight. And that whoever was making this decisions wasn't nice etc.

Lynval, Ranking Roger, Afrodisiak, Dave Wakeling and Costello were involved with Nelson Mandela. Rhoda not only sang but also helped with the lyrics so definitely the compilers should have made more effort to list everyone's contributions. I'm sure everyone agrees 100% on that. You might be interested in this feature about recording Mandela from Uncut...




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[inlikeflynn]

[quote="Harry"]Sorry Inlikeflynn, I read your post and thought you were agreeing with the opinion that someone had dropped "Bragging" track as a sight to Roddy and that the fact his guitar contribution to "Racist Friend"wasn't mentioned was another slight. And that whoever was making this decisions wasn't nice etc.

Lynval, Ranking Roger, Afrodisiak, Dave Wakeling and Costello were involved with Nelson Mandela. Rhoda not only sang but also helped with the lyrics so definitely the compilers should have made more effort to list everyone's contributions. I'm sure everyone agrees 100% on that. You might be interested in this feature about recording Mandela from Uncut...

Well to be honest I still don't know what to make of it. Many years ago Jerry said that the only reason Braggin' was not included on the album was a matter of album length...which I never quite understood unless it was a contractual issue.
But now there is no reason to leave it out, so someone has made a decision not to include it, I assumed that it must have been Jerry for whatever reason he has.
I may be wrong, but it was obviously done with some deliberation as Neville's Rude Boys track is included, that in itself is curious and I don't think you can blame anyone for wondering if there was a feeling that Jerry does not like Roddy's track and feels does not fit with the tone of the album as he envisaged ?
Personally I think that if Rod and Nevs tracks had been included, the albums diversity would be further heightened in light of them.
I do think that Roddy's and Horace's contributions to that In The Studio album should have been listed along with others, there was no point in omitting them, considering space has been granted to list the musicians on the bonus tracks.
But anyway, thanks for the article. I had hoped that the In The Studio set would include the 'Play at Home' versions of some of the tracks, particularly the skanking version of 'Can't Get A Break ' .. Might have been a lot more exciting than half a dozen Instrumentals.
Oh and by the way, I hadn't even been aware of any conspiracy theories against Willo... I don't log on much but it sounds ludicrous... Paul is so devoted to the band and its fans and is a fantastic bloke.

[Trojan]

Does anyone seriously think that a lot of thought and effort went into these re-issues? They were chucked out by the record company in order to recoup some revenue from the purchase of the back catalogue. It's hardly surprising that such details or indeed tracks have been omitted.

Rasta Call You and Easter Island have been left off The Special AKA re-hash. Maybe Jerry has it in for Rico as well
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[Harry]

"I had hoped that the In The Studio set would include the 'Play at Home' versions of some of the tracks, particularly the skanking version of 'Can't Get A Break ' ."

Yep, I absolutely agree 100%
It would have been great if there was a DVD of the Chanel 4 documentary about "In The Studio" included.
Rhoda apparently wrote a song called "Male Chauvinist Pig" that I'd like to hear and there's another song mentioned called something like "Photo Book Love" (or something similar) - would have been great if they'd included that and the live version of Mandela (from The Tube) with Costello singing.
C'est la vie - but I was pleased to see the 5 star reviews and delighted Chalkie Davies unearthed rare photos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmkTAvtneYw
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[Jett Rink]

I thought Jerry had complete control on these re-issues?

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Roddy must of done something really bad too Gerald Dankey?

[my stan smiths]

Quote from Jerry in 'The 2-tone book for Rude Boys'.....'It's just a pity we couldn't get Roddy's Braggin' and Tryin' Not To Lie on the album itself.' Just as well there's an expanded deluxe edition 35 years later then!

[Harry]

I think I'm right in saying that Jerry Dammers approved or agreed with the appointment of Lois Wilson as the music journalist who wrote the new sleeve notes and Tim Debney as being the person remastering the tracks. The word "deluxe" doesn't mean "complete" If the CDs come in a box and feature some rare and unseen Chalkie Davies photos of the band, then it's accurate to describe it as a deluxe edition. Unlike "Stereo-Typical" (which is still available) These albums have had rave 5 star reviews in the press. When they first come out they were really expensive apparently (£21) but they're now cheaper - in Feb they went down to £11.99 on WOWCD and in April Amazon were only asking just £9.99
On other websites people are making different comments....
"The bass has certainly been lifted on the new mastering. I’m digging it."
- "No 12″ version of Free Nelson Mandela?"
"Dig the ‘Break Down The Door’ instrumental. Unique mix and not just the extended version sans vocals as I expected. ‘Nelson Mandela’ instrumental is also good and differs from released versions. ‘War Crimes’ instrumental also unique but more similar to 12″ version. ‘Can’t Get a Break’ is extended version from the ‘…Girlfriend’ 12″ vs shorter 7″ edit. Would have liked US 12″ remix of ‘Mandela’…" etc etc
I think it's a case of: You can please some of the people some of the time...
Maybe next time the albums are re-released and repackaged all the musicians who contributed will be thanked and some of the Rhoda songs, Rico stuff, and other songs mentioned in this thread will be included?
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[West wales Sky Blue]

Weren't both songs on the More Specials cassette? I had the cassette before I had the vinyl and I seem to remember them it, in the same order as on the cd.

[Sugarman]

Correct both of those extra tracks were available on More Specials Cassette and first issue UK CD's only

They have also appeared on all uk reissues of More Specials Cassette tapes.

Their was a Chrysalis cassette compilation called The Specials "Take Two" which is basically the first 2 albums, the extra tracks are listed but they are not on the cassette when played?

The original UK CD Plays the extra tracks but they are not listed anywhere on the cd or artwork, weird?
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[West wales Sky Blue]

I've just checked my copy of the cd, as you say Sugarman, the two extra tracks aren't listed.
Shows how observant I am!!
They show up correctly when I've ripped to iTunes, but don't appear when ripping to Media Player.