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Too Much Fighting on The Dance Floor is broadcast on BBC Radio 4 on Thursday 10 September at 11:30.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34184563
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(Gonna listen to this right now, just saw it on Facebook.)

Pasted from BBC site:

Why was British music in the late 1970's and early 80's so tribal and so violent? If going to a musical gig now is about having fun and enjoying a "party" atmosphere, it used to be very different. It was an era when music was taken very seriously. For many, it defined who you were. Writer Paul Morley says: "Back then the music you liked was a matter of life and death."

It was common for musical differences to end in violence. Peter Hook, of Joy Division and then New Order, says "There were riots all the time at gigs."

And it was a time when politics played a much more prominent role in popular culture. Neville Staple of Two-Tone group, The Specials, recalls the havoc caused by the far right National Front. "We used to get a lot of conflict at our gigs ...we always used to get the NF," he says.

Adrian Goldberg looks back at a culture divided by haircuts, clothes, class and politics. What did this tribalism say about Britain then?

The programme includes contributors from Peter Hook of Joy Division and New Order; Peter Hooton from The Farm; Pauline Black of Selecter; Neville Staple of the Specials; Clare Grogan of Altered Images plus music journalists Paul Morley, ex New Musical Express and Garry Bushell of Sounds. It also has a stellar soundtrack from the era.

Producer: Jim Frank.
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edtaylor007 wrote:
Too Much Fighting on The Dance Floor is broadcast on BBC Radio 4 on Thursday 10 September at 11:30.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34184563


Interesting listen, thanks for the heads up
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You could say that the 70's and the 80's were violent times in general, riots in the streets, at football matches and gigs.

But another way to look at it is that them days were freer and people were not afraid to express themselves vocally and physically.

IMO the 90's onwards has seen the country become Orwellian, rightly or wrongly people are less likely to say what they really think or do what they really want to do.

We live in a world now where we are watched all the time by CCTV, and PC has made us censor ourselves.

And for those reasons you won't see so much trouble in the streets,

”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Ben Franklin
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poshfangaz wrote:
You could say that the 70's and the 80's were violent times in general, riots in the streets, at football matches and gigs.

But another way to look at it is that them days were freer and people were not afraid to express themselves vocally and physically.

IMO the 90's onwards has seen the country become Orwellian, rightly or wrongly people are less likely to say what they really think or do what they really want to do.

We live in a world now where we are watched all the time by CCTV, and PC has made us censor ourselves.

And for those reasons you won't see so much trouble in the streets,

”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Ben Franklin


I recall seeing this programme where original mods and rockers reflected on the fights between the two in the 1960s. One woman pointed out how the media were feeding it, and that all of this 'divide and conquer' suited the people in power.

During the seventies there was also a hell of a lot of misdirected violence, where young people would fight over a different football scarf or the band you followed. Crazy. Yet it did also produce a lot of great music, and people were far more vocal than today about how things were.
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