Regarding this series.
There was a whole new Ska revival happening in 1990, shame none of the characters seem aware of this, probably because the writer himself was no more than a 12 month bandwagoner back in his youth.
Conversely in 1990 I was listening to Terry, Blair and Anouchka, The Nutty Boys, UB40 and FYC (the latter two I now thoroughly regret and can't listen to). I had no clue about Madchester or raves. Well I knew they existed, but they weren't for me so I paid no attention. To this day I have no idea why some people idolise Ian Brown to the extent they do. I was almost totally oblivious to the whole thing. Chances are 99% of the population (and more) were unaware there was another ska thing going on at around the same time.
Shane Meadow's jumping off point was his life, not mine. The fact that I can relate to what happened in the original film was enough to get me hooked. For me it was all about choices and the knife edge many of us walked by being part of the skinhead thing as youths. _________________ a tale of woe: a yahoo group for fans of Terry Hall and all his work.
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Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:40 am
Sugarman Too Hot
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Pledge wrote:
JUKESKA wrote:
Regarding this series.
There was a whole new Ska revival happening in 1990, shame none of the characters seem aware of this, probably because the writer himself was no more than a 12 month bandwagoner back in his youth.
Conversely in 1990 I was listening to Terry, Blair and Anouchka, The Nutty Boys, UB40 and FYC (the latter two I now thoroughly regret and can't listen to). I had no clue about Madchester or raves. Well I knew they existed, but they weren't for me so I paid no attention. To this day I have no idea why some people idolise Ian Brown to the extent they do. I was almost totally oblivious to the whole thing. Chances are 99% of the population (and more) were unaware there was another ska thing going on at around the same time.
Shane Meadow's jumping off point was his life, not mine. The fact that I can relate to what happened in the original film was enough to get me hooked. For me it was all about choices and the knife edge many of us walked by being part of the skinhead thing as youths.
Fine young cannibals first album is a classic, they were not a Ska band but they wrote good songs like Blue, Time isn't kind, Move to work and others, even Jerry Dammers liked them _________________ I'm having bags of fun
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Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:40 am
Halfy Special
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 622
Location: Kent
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Sugarman wrote:
Pledge wrote:
JUKESKA wrote:
Regarding this series.
There was a whole new Ska revival happening in 1990, shame none of the characters seem aware of this, probably because the writer himself was no more than a 12 month bandwagoner back in his youth.
Conversely in 1990 I was listening to Terry, Blair and Anouchka, The Nutty Boys, UB40 and FYC (the latter two I now thoroughly regret and can't listen to). I had no clue about Madchester or raves. Well I knew they existed, but they weren't for me so I paid no attention. To this day I have no idea why some people idolise Ian Brown to the extent they do. I was almost totally oblivious to the whole thing. Chances are 99% of the population (and more) were unaware there was another ska thing going on at around the same time.
Shane Meadow's jumping off point was his life, not mine. The fact that I can relate to what happened in the original film was enough to get me hooked. For me it was all about choices and the knife edge many of us walked by being part of the skinhead thing as youths.
Fine young cannibals first album is a classic, they were not a Ska band but they wrote good songs like Blue, Time isn't kind, Move to work and others, even Jerry Dammers liked them
I'm with the 'General'. Great work from FYC.
I've enjoyed the whole series. The cast have to be given great credit for their ability to ad-lib so well, if sometimes it makes some scenes a little dis-jointed but all the more rewarding for it. The only other drama that hooked as me much was 'The WIRE'. Let's hope a few 'gongs' come their way _________________ "And he listens to his stereo"
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Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:09 am
the-ska-knight Too Hot
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The concluding episode was a beautiful way to round it all off. I kind of hope they leave it now.
Some of the performances were breathtakingly fucking good.
Combo is an obvious one, but Lol and Kelly (especially their scenes together) were so impressive and so real in their roles.
I disagree totally that Madchester is a poor choice of backdrop for the series. By miles it was the scene of 1990. I don't especially like the Stone Roses but it would be wrong to say they, and the music largely featured in the series wasn't the main thing at the time. Madchester was everywhere.
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Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:34 pm
Sugarman Too Hot
Joined: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 6062
Location: Sun Valley
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I never got into the Madchester scene but I loved Britpop without, Oasis
I bought This is England 2 disc DVD today for the special features
I thought the whole Madchester scene was fantastic. I always had a soft spot for the Inspiral Carpets As others have said it was the scene of the time and it certainly plays a major back drop to any social commentary of the time. In the early 90’s I was also listening to a lot of what came known as Gangster Rap. The rap albums of that time are fantastic. The rave scene gave me some the best nights of my life, but I am under no illusion that MDMA played a major part in that.
As for Britpop I never got into Blur but liked a lot of the ‘lesser’ bands like Echobelly and Elastica.
I've still no interest in watching any of the This is England TV series though. _________________ Richard Eddington is innocent.
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Trojan wrote:
I thought the whole Madchester scene was fantastic. I always had a soft spot for the Inspiral Carpets As others have said it was the scene of the time and it certainly plays a major back drop to any social commentary of the time. In the early 90’s I was also listening to a lot of what came known as Gangster Rap. The rap albums of that time are fantastic. The rave scene gave me some the best nights of my life, but I am under no illusion that MDMA played a major part in that.
As for Britpop I never got into Blur but liked a lot of the ‘lesser’ bands like Echobelly, Elastica
I've still no interest in watching any of the This is England TV series though.
I also liked Echobelly, Elastica, early Rave and N.W.A
_________________ I'm having bags of fun
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Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:53 pm
Trojan Too Hot
Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 2529
Location: Area 3
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Sugarman wrote:
Trojan wrote:
I thought the whole Madchester scene was fantastic. I always had a soft spot for the Inspiral Carpets As others have said it was the scene of the time and it certainly plays a major back drop to any social commentary of the time. In the early 90’s I was also listening to a lot of what came known as Gangster Rap. The rap albums of that time are fantastic. The rave scene gave me some the best nights of my life, but I am under no illusion that MDMA played a major part in that.
As for Britpop I never got into Blur but liked a lot of the ‘lesser’ bands like Echobelly, Elastica
I've still no interest in watching any of the This is England TV series though.
I also liked Echobelly, Elastica, early Rave and N.W.A
During the early 90's I don't think Ice Cube released a single bad track.
AmeriKKKa's Must Wanted, Death Certificate, The Predator and Lethal Injection are all outstanding albums. _________________ Richard Eddington is innocent.
I started this thread bemoaning the first couple of episodes, but I have to say the last two parts were really very good. Some fantastic acting by the cast, and the ending was great. I do hope they do more in the future, I would like to know where the characters go from here. Still not a fan of the Madchester theme though ! _________________ The past is our knowledge, the present our mistake and the future we always leave too late.
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Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:58 pm
louis2 Gangster
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 269
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best thing on the tv since last series, fantastic show... _________________ "i live by the river"
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Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:45 pm
Hugh Too Hot
Joined: 02 Apr 2004 Posts: 13749
Location: New Westminster, BC Canada
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It ain't but a grain of England. _________________ There's still nothing wrong with it!
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