The crimes of Winston Churchill

Harry · Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 1589 Location: London

Last Xmas my mother and I went to see the Churchill film staring Gary Oldman. I thought the film was good in parts and actually quite moving.
The film is about the best things Churchill did - this article (below) talks about the worse things he did...
https://crimesofbritain.com/2016/09/13/the-trial-of-winston-churchill/?fbclid=IwAR3124gJrvusqe9PNkhrQGl3gaUhR_WXrQhrVDSCzz4gu2Yoy7ngV9Yd98k

I thought this recent spat was fascinating.
Piers Morgan Vs Ross Greer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy8Bt_V971o
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Trojan · Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 2389 Location: Area 3

Churchill also opposed votes for women and the formation of the NHS.
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marigold · Joined: 16 May 2010 Posts: 3262 Location: washington. d. c.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/15/opinion/sunday/country-music-tim-mcgraw-jon-meacham.html

On Wednesday - at a loose end - I walked into this event - which turned out to be a sort of book tour - and one of the ways that Americans are struggling with history or revisionist history - which Harry has brought up in this post.

For them it is race and colour - the songs Tim McGraw chose were so far away from anything I would have imagined "Over There" George M. Cohan - interpreted as a soft and beautiful lullaby - Mickey Newbery from "Frisco Mabel Joy" which I would NEVER have thought I would hear live - and for these two Southern men an uncomfortable and unresolved love of "Dixie" as it's about Southern slaves and cotton and yet, a song they love and grew up loving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAlnYJXmO2Y
They waved and acknowledged Carole King in the audience and I nearly fell out of the box rubbernecking : (

One callous friend described being posted overseas as the them and us deployment as a way to distinguish - "Good and easy identifiable working class" and the Churchill debate is the same but different.
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Imani · Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 1693 Location: Bradford

Good article, Harry.

Young British people today will probably be far less in thrall to figures like Winston Churchill - that is, if they even know him. The only exception would be on occasions of war memorial. The generation that came along just after ww2 and the latter years of the British empire were far more deferential.

Harry · Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 1589 Location: London

Imani · Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 1693 Location: Bradford

There's definitely something in the Churchill/Johnson comparison. I can handle the jingoism, just about; at least this time round it won't mean Britain going around the globe setting up colonies.

Trojan · Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 2389 Location: Area 3